I don’t really know why or how exactly, but I was involved in a discussion about living communes and Anne asked which is that Christian place above Utrecht? In a flash I yelled: Barendrecht! My exclamation was met with ridicule. and I regretted my desire to prove my knowlegde of topography, which is mediocre on the best of days anyway.
Barendrecht, I now know, and you probably did already is close to Rotterdam not Utrecht. Anne ment Spakenburg or Bunschoten two towns close together and indeed above Utrecht.